Curse

kazjun · Feb 26, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Hmm, looks like you may need to cry more if it's a double gwen points weekend. Cause the whole population maxing 2 titles<the whole population maxing 4 titles. Course, you may get lucky and favour might reset to some really low number.

Kanyatta · Feb 26, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

I personally hate waiting with like, 3 other people to do a ranger trapping group waiting to get favor. I like the current system. It isn't as if FoW/UW is hard, it's definitely no harder than an HM mission (which is fairly easy). I don't think any area should be "exclusive", especially PvE.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 26, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

old system

HoH

GTFO

/notsigned

HawkofStorms · Feb 27, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

/notsigned
A.net's current favor system is basically the abolishment of the favor system. They knew that the old region vs region set up was stupid. It didn't motivate people to co-operate between PvE and PvP. It just lead to a lot of racism and hate (stupid Europeans/Americans/Asians having favor now, blah blah blah). The system they have now is a white flag to never return to the old system.

FrAnt1c² · Feb 27, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

People that are saying they dont like to wait: Why did Anet come up with those passage scrolls in the first place then?

Phoenix Tears · Feb 27, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

ur only with one thing right imo...

entry scrolls are useless now, unless you want to have real free entry, not paying the 1 plat ....

the whole system around those elite areas is imo fail, due to the missing realms of the other gods from the begin on...

however, atm I think, anet could give those scrolls a new meaning, making out of them some special magic scrolls, which would give the party UW/Deep/Urgoz special party buffs or so for some short durations ..

this way the scrolls would receive again soem value back they had once.

For Example:

Scroll of the Underground:
For the next 10 Minutes won't receive Party members any Death Malus, when they die and the Special Effects of all Profession's primary attributes are increased by 50%.
means for example, a Necromancer receives 50% more Energy, when something dies, from his Soul Reapiung Attribute, Max Energy of Eles gets increased by 50% of their Energy Storage Attribute and so on....

Scroll of the Deep: For the next 10 Minutes, your party can't be interupted or knock downed. Whenever someone of you would usually get interrupted or knock downed, all nearby foes to that party member will receive 10% of their Max HP as damage

Scroll of Urgoz: For the next 10 Minutes will receive all party members an additional Energy regeneration of +1 and will receive 15 HP heals/second, when they move around + an additional bonus of +20 Defense against Elemental Damage

something like that could be then new effects of those scrolls, those effects would work then also only in those elite ares, fittign to the names.

so no underworld scroll effects in the deep ect.

with such effects at least those scrolls would be again in the game with some value due to the perma entrance makign them useless

Artorius.Maximus · Feb 27, 2008, 01:45 AM // 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

ur only with one thing right imo...

entry scrolls are useless now, unless you want to have real free entry, not paying the 1 plat ....

the whole system around those elite areas is imo fail, due to the missing realms of the other gods from the begin on...

however, atm I think, anet could give those scrolls a new meaning, making out of them some special magic scrolls, which would give the party UW/Deep/Urgoz special party buffs or so for some short durations ..

this way the scrolls would receive again soem value back they had once.

For Example:

Scroll of the Underground:
For the next 10 Minutes won't receive Party members any Death Malus, when they die and the Special Effects of all Profession's primary attributes are increased by 50%.
means for example, a Necromancer receives 50% more Energy, when something dies, from his Soul Reapiung Attribute, Max Energy of Eles gets increased by 50% of their Energy Storage Attribute and so on....

Scroll of the Deep: For the next 10 Minutes, your party can't be interupted or knock downed. Whenever someone of you would usually get interrupted or knock downed, all nearby foes to that party member will receive 10% of their Max HP as damage

Scroll of Urgoz: For the next 10 Minutes will receive all party members an additional Energy regeneration of +1 and will receive 15 HP heals/second, when they move around + an additional bonus of +20 Defense against Elemental Damage

something like that could be then new effects of those scrolls, those effects would work then also only in those elite ares, fittign to the names.

so no underworld scroll effects in the deep ect.

with such effects at least those scrolls would be again in the game with some value due to the perma entrance makign them useless

I agree this would add value to the scrolls. It would also completely nerf those areas (or cause Anet to buff them as a balance to the scrolls). Anet has already given us consumables with EOTN, there is no need for additional benefits. As stated, once permafavor wears off (which I hope it never does) the scrolls will be used to get into those areas again. As far as the Deep and Urgoz scrolls go, unless you are in the alliance that owns Cavalon/HzH you cannot get to those missions (except using the old Ferry system).

thor hammerbane · Feb 27, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Lower the minutes from the titles, but old system wasn't too fun. These areas are still elite, but now they are accessible all of the time. doesn't make them harder or easier. As for the mat drop, it's not the constant favor, but the ursan.

I played during the old system, and I did not like it one bit. The only time america won halls was near midnight in my timezone, so i could only do UW/FoW those few times i was up that late. Now, i can go whenever and have a good time.

so..signed 50%, not signed 50%. Keep system, but make it less minutes per title.

Alex Morningstar · Feb 27, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

You think it's bad now, think about it this way. When it gets closer and closer to GW2, less people are going to play GW, unless some new content comes out between now and then, people are going to get bored.

The minutes for FoW will dwindle down eventually. And once they do, I don't see them coming back up. Enjoy it while it lasts. Yeah, it may last several months, or even longer and to those of you that are youngin's, that may seem like forever, but considering that will be it... Yeah.

And that isn't to say everyone that quits playing GW will quit to play GW2, it's saying people will quit playing because the player base is shrinking and you can only do the same content over and over without getting bored.

FrAnt1c² · Feb 27, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor hammerbane

I played during the old system, and I did not like it one bit. The only time america won halls was near midnight in my timezone, so i could only do UW/FoW those few times i was up that late. Now, i can go whenever and have a good time.

And that, my friend, is where the scrolls kick in

Sergeant of Marines · Feb 27, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

/unsigned

People do what they want to
You do What you want to

The Meth · Feb 27, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

You have my 100% unqualified support. I SURE want to restrict myself from ever being able to go to UW and FoW again. What were they thinking? I would just love to grind for titles and/or wait for the nubs of the day to win HoH.

^This is sarcasm btw

FrAnt1c² · Feb 27, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meth

You have my 100% unqualified support. I SURE want to restrict myself from ever being able to go to UW and FoW again. What were they thinking? I would just love to grind for titles and/or wait for the nubs of the day to win HoH.

^This is sarcasm btw

Don't want to wait/grind?

BUY A SCROLL!

^Not sarcasm, kthxbye...

But what the heck, close this thread, I can see where this is going.... whatever...

Pleikki · Feb 27, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02

/signed get favor away and nerf droprate

Abedeus · Feb 27, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

/signed make monsters drop only 5g, so you have to kill 200 monsters to get 1k.

Sol Deathgard · Feb 27, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

It's not really a nerf or buff...

Nerf: It will be (alot) harder to get into UW/FoW again, however, Ecto's etc will go up again, thus nerf and buff...

/signed

been hearing that argument for over a year, long before the favor system was changed ecto prices dropped to the current trader price of 5.5k. It has stayed at that price since the favor change, having had what? 4 or 5 weeks of constant favor hasn't really affected it at all.
Here's the reason ecto prices have fallen for all you that are too busy looking over your noses at the favor system to see it. Most everyone that wants FoW armor has it. there where no new classes introduced in Gwen mainly cause the pvpers cried that new classes ruin the balance. (honestly if you are too dumb to read what skills do & make counters that's on you) The chaos gloves wheren't all that popular, a few people worked on them. Now adays ecto is used for nothing more then 100k+ trades, nothing more, nothing less. restricting access will not change that, the only thing that will is if new classes are introduced to GW which will not happen since the next release is gonna be GW2.

Stop crying about the imaginary economy that none of you will give a flying monkey's butt about in about 1 yr, and play the freaking game children.

bathazard · Feb 27, 2008, 08:56 AM // 08:56

ummmm why post this thread when 99.9999999999999(reacuring)% will say OMFG DON'T NURF UNDERWORLD FOW !!!1!11!!!!

ragnagard · Feb 27, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Nerf it? Why not put a 2k fee for entrance too? ¬¬

It has a poor drop right now, and you have to pay a fee to enter. It's just like a cinema you have to go in. Entrance fee, bad film.

But I like to do something about the scrolls i have....

anyways... /notsigned

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Originally Posted by Artorius.Maximus

yak yak yak... The counter has gone down by almost 10,000 minutes over that month, it will get back to 0 on its own. The only thing that Anet should do (if anything) is just reset the counter to 0, which they did halfwy through that weekend, or we would have had roughly 60,000 minutes of favor. yak yak yak

Looks like anyone but me knows (or i havent read it).... i will tell it. The favor system was reseted to 0 that weekend. more exactly, on the saturday evening (GMT+1).I have a SS showing:

"gained max title blablah
gained max title...
this territory has lost....
this territory has lost....
19 titles left to get...."

^^

Looks like Anet has a variable with a cap of XXXXX mins xD and it got overflowed :P

Pleikki · Feb 27, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43

and yeah it would be awesome go back like it used be Favor from Hoh and its like euro got favor, america korea etc

MithranArkanere · Feb 27, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

XDDDD
Yeah, 'supposed to be elite areas'.
When we have favor, the Avatars still require scrolls or gold to go down there.

If people are given things... some complain, if people are not given things... even more complain...

Sorrow's Furnace, The Tombs, Urgoz, the Deep, the Anguish and the Slaver's are also 'elite' or 'after end-game' areas, but they have no limitations in entrances.

That's completely normal.

Anyways, it would never affect me. Since I started playing more that 2 years ago, Europe always had the Favor while I was paying (that is, anytime since 13 a.m. to 2a.m. GMT+1, and up to 5a.m. on Weekends nights), that left... let's see... around 8 hours for the rest of the world. Nice, eh?